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Henry Sinclair's Coat of Arms

Postby Procutus on Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:47 pm

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On Page 51 of Mark Finnan's The Sinclair Saga is a picture of the arms of the Earl of Orkney, aka Henry Sinclair. The depiction of the Arms shows a shield with a Templar-like cross emblem stretching across the surface of the shield. On the top right of the shield is what appears to be a crowned helm of some sort, with the elongated neck of an animal rising out of the crown. I have two questions about this illustration:

1. What is the animal sticking its neck out of the crown? It's not a serpent, not a giraffe and not a llama, though it bears characteristics of all three.

2. My other question is the Coat of Arms the same as what the Sinclair Family Crest would be, or would that be something entirely different? If so, can anyone point me to an illustration of that?

I appreciate any input on this. I'm currently working on a story where this factors in, and I wish to keep it as factual as possible.


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Postby badinfluence63 on Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:35 pm

Proc,

Have you got a postable photo of that? I tried to look one up with no luck.

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Postby FutureProspect784 on Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:25 pm

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The depiction of the Arms shows a shield with a Templar-like cross emblem stretching across the surface of the shield. On the top right of the shield is what appears to be a crowned helm of some sort, with the elongated neck of an animal rising out of the crown.


Does this look familiar?

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Postby badinfluence63 on Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:10 pm

FP,

Is that it? It looks like what Proc described.

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Postby FutureProspect784 on Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:45 pm

badinfluence63 wrote:Is that it?


It should be. It's what Google came up with when I searched 'coat of arms Earl of Orkney' under the 'images' section.

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Postby badinfluence63 on Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:02 pm

FP,Proc,

Then that is the funkiest looking coat of arms I've ever seen. I can't imagine the meaning of it :shock: .

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Postby Procutus on Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:55 pm

FP, BI;


That's the one! :D And that is most definintely the weirdest coat of arms I've run across.

:shock:

Yet, that's what Finnan has in his book. Any ideas as to what the critter in question is?

I'm thinking that since Sinclair was Scottish, maybe it's the Loch Ness Monster!


:lol:


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Postby badinfluence63 on Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:20 pm

Proc,

I think it represents the demons in his head that causes him to do some of the wild and crazy things he done.

Or it was a vision he incurred after inadvertantly ingesting shroommage. :)

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Postby FutureProspect784 on Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:25 pm

Proc, BI:

maybe it's the Loch Ness Monster!


You know, that was the first thought to cross my mind when I saw the coat of arms. And I agree, it's one of the strangest arms I've seen. I couldn't begin to fathom the meaning of it, but maybe some hunting around the 'net will clear it up.

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Postby FutureProspect784 on Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:37 pm

Proc, BI,

Check this out:

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Apparently, this is an 'early' Sinclair coat of arms, and if I understood what I read correctly, it would date somewhere in the region of late 13th c. - early 14th c. I wonder why they changed it to the one I posted above?

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P.S. - I found it here, if you're interested: http://home.gwi.net/ages/Main%20Body/Hi ... igins.html
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