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Po's questions number 2.

Postby po79 on Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:48 pm

Hi all,

My first question about archaeological digs on Oak Island is still running (no replies yet) but its now time for my next question....

When a TTL is applied for do you need to apply for separate licences for each section/area you wish to search/dig for "treasure" or do you apply for one licence and just put on your application as to the areas you plan to search on.

I will explain why I ask this once I understand how this part of the application process works.

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Re: Po's questions number 2.

Postby Jo on Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:06 pm

Hi Po,

I'm enjoying your questions on the forum. Sometimes it pays to revisit the lines of enquiry we've grown familiar with, and a fresh pair of eyes will certainly help.

With regards to the TTL, the entire process is currently under investigation by the Nova Scotian government, with even UNESCO taking an interest in how applications for treasure hunting are managed. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Nova Scotia is the only Canadian province which has allowed treasure hunting under such a method, and the regulation of such is now under scrutiny.

This isn't just with regards to Oak Island, but also the thousands of shipwrecks around the coastline, which are also covered by the TTL. You can imagine there are lots of interested parties, not just connected to Oak Island, who really want to hear a decision made on this issue soon.

As I understand it, I believe one TTL is required for all of the land you wish to investigate, but I could be wrong.

Hope that's cleared some things up for you (kind of!)

Keep those questions coming :)

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Re: Po's questions number 2.

Postby po79 on Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:08 pm

Hello Jo,

Thanks for the reply.

My basic reason for the question was mostly to get a better understanding of the TTL but also to see if, given the current pressure/scrutiny on the sub sea side of things, weather or not the Michigan Group and Dan needed to apply for separate TTL’s for there land search and their sub sea search.

If it wasn't necessary under the rules did they have the foresight to make two applications anyway as I would imagine there could well be a stronger resistance to approve a licence containing a request for sub sea search/exploration than one that just covers the land on Oak Island.

I read somewhere that the cost for the TTL is under $600, so not a huge sum, and paying an extra $600 would be worth paying if a single licence application is rejected and a new application had to be submitted.

Or would the board just reject certain aspects of a single application and approve the parts of the application that they felt was justified.

I'm not sure if any of that makes sense!?

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Re: Po's questions number 2.

Postby Jo on Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:38 pm

I think the current TTL covers the surrounding waters for one mile out to sea from the island. However, even if Oak Island Tours Inc were to submit another application now for other areas of investigation, it would be refused due to the fact that all applications have been frozen until the process has been revised.

I think the underwater side scan work which was done by Dave Delaney's Thermacline Marine Technology company was covered by the existing TTL. You can see images of this here if you haven't seen them before: http://www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk/cont ... w/185/160/

As for the intricacies of the application process, it's not something I know a great deal about, but perhaps some Nova Scotians on here might be able to shed some light as to the ins and outs of the policies and regulations connected to the TTL.
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Re: Po's questions number 2.

Postby po79 on Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:03 pm

Now all becomes clear!

So even by submitting a Oak Island "land only" application it would still cover the sub sea investigations for a one mile radius of the island.

Thanks clearing that up for me Jo.

Sorry if I should have realised that already, I was just thinking of things that could hold up the application once the government have finished with their investigation/revision of the TTL process and thought splitting the applications up would prevent any further hold ups.

Are the Michigan Group and Dan hopeful of finding anything in the waters around the island or is it just something they thought was worth a look just in case.

Po's question number 2 is a bit redundant now, time for question 3.

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Re: Po's questions number 2.

Postby Jo on Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:21 pm

You're welcome Po. I've had so many conversations with people about the TTL recently that it's hard to remember what's been said and to whom! Our group on Facebook is full of TTL questions, that I forget where I'm up to :)

The group did report finding what they thought was a wreck, and a couple of other structures worthy of investigation, but the operation was still pretty classified last time I spoke to Dave. One of the sidescan images that Dave was particularly excited about was the one below, which he called the 'QUICK' image. (It's large and you may need to scroll to the right).

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If you look to the lower right, you can make out some structures which look like the word 'QUICK'. It was this that Dave thought may be the wooden ribs of a wreck.

There were one or two other images which did have questionable shapes which I can post here if you've not seen them before.
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Re: Po's questions number 2.

Postby po79 on Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:51 pm

Thanks Jo (your a star),

I have seen some of the images before and remember this one and the "Quick" in the sand (it should be called the Quick Sand image!).

These images are very hard to interpret for the untrained eye so I can never make a judgment on them. Aren’t the waters around the island shallow enough for divers to have a closer look or is this not permitted until the TTL is through.

For me checking the waters around the island is worth an investigation for sure and it shows the new group are thinking outside of the box. Its certainly something I would have looked at too but I wouldn't be over confident of finding anything substantial.

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Re: Po's questions number 2.

Postby FutureProspect784 on Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:02 pm

Hiya Jo:

There were one or two other images which did have questionable shapes which I can post here if you've not seen them before.


I don't think I've ever seen these other images you mention - well, I probably have, but just can't recall them. I for one would be interested in having a looksee (or another looksee, to be more precise :lol: ).

Don't mind my butting in like this.

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Re: Po's questions number 2.

Postby Jo on Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:07 pm

Sure, no problem fp. Here you go, see what you can see under the sea!

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Re: Po's questions number 2.

Postby Procutus on Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:30 pm

Jo;

Where the above images taken? Was this just off-shore of the island itself, or further out into Mahone Bay?

Also, I have a TTL-related question of my own. I've been trying to explain to Lynne just how this works and why Dan can't simply dig on property that he owns. So let me ask a very simple (possibly dumb) question:

What if some farmer in Nova Scotia was simply plowing up a field to plant a new crop when his blades unearthed something buried previously that happened to contain items of intrinsic value? Does the province just come in and yank them out from under his nose? Assuming of course, said farmer made public his find.

I bring this up only because on occasions, my dad will unearth some items of interest on his property here in Ohio, nothing valuable but it makes you wonder what if.


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